Kim Gravel is a veteran tv host, entrepreneur, public speaker, and life coach who’s appeared on The Steve Harvey Show and was regularly featured on SiriusXM’s Dirty Pop with Lance Bass. Through her own hit show, Kim of Queens, she was able to entertain audiences with her quick wit and vivacious storytelling. In just two years, Kim was able to build her business from nothing to a $60 million success.
In this episode, Kim shares the core purpose of her message, how her voice was always as strong and confident as it is today, the value of communication, why helping others with self-expression is a large part of what Kim does in her work, why you need to quit preparing and start doing, the importance of being passionate about what you do, and so much more!
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Hey, hey! It’s Andrea and welcome to the Voice of Influence podcast.
Oh my goodness, you guys, today is a treat! We have Kim Gravel, who is a veteran TV host, entrepreneur, public speaker, and life coach. She was booked on The Steve Harvey Show and was regularly featured on SiriusXM Radio Show, Dirty Pop with Lance Bass.
And through her own hit show “Kim of Queens,” Kim was able to entertain audiences with her quick wit and vivacious storytelling. Indeed, I know, and you’re going to experience it. Her Passion for people was made obvious onscreen as her unexpected depth and genuine heart helped her clients find confidence and self-love.
For her newest venture, Kim has partnered with retail giant QVC to launch the Belle by Kim Gravel apparel line and Belle Beauty Cosmetic line. And in just two years, Kim was able to build her business from nothing to a $60 million success.
Andrea: Kim, it is so good to have you with us here on the Voice of Influence podcast.
Kim Gravel: Oh, so exciting. I love it. I love Voice of influence. What a fantastic title, right? Because we all have an influence, so, you know, and we all have a voice so people just don’t get that. So I love the title of this podcast.
Andrea: Awesome. Thank you. I love it too. It felt like it was like this, I don’t know, handed to me or something, you know.
Kim Gravel: Yeah. Uh-hmm.
Andrea: OK, so Kim, I know that you’re really driven by purpose and mission and your message, so could you share with us kind of what you’re all about, I guess. What is the purpose and message, the core of your message?
Kim Gravel: You know, I think my particular message has been what it’s always been. It has evolved, it’s changed, it has had many faces, it’s taken many turns, and manifested in many different ways. But for me, it’s about knowing the ‘why you’re here’ and ‘what are you going to do about it.’ You know what I’m saying?
Andrea: Yeah.
Kim Gravel: I think some get it at a very early age, most people never get it, and some of us are trying to get it on a daily basis and some of us, it’s just a journey. But when you can figure out the why you are here then you can get onto what are you going to do about it because everybody has a purpose. And that’s such a self-help guru type, you know, answer but it’s just the truth.
I’m a straight shooter, so I’ll just tell you straight up, you weren’t here, you weren’t put on the earth just to take up space, there’s a reason. And you can call it whatever you want to, super spiritual, super new ages, super…whatever they’re labeling it today. But that’s just the heart of it and I think everybody is always searching for that. People say, you know, “Uhh, people are searching for love. People are searching for self-worth.” No, people are searching for ‘why am I here?’
Andrea: Yeah.
Kim Gravel: Yeah. All the other stuff that’s just add-ons, you know, what I’m saying?
Andrea: Uh-hmm.
Kim Gravel: And so for me, helping people see that or helping people even understand that that is why they’re here is what the message is. It’s so difficult but so simple at the same time because for me, I found out what that was. I was doing that. You’re always doing your purpose. You just never can define it. You know what, I’m saying? It’s everything you never thought you always wanted. That’s what purpose is, you know.
Andrea: Yeah.
Kim Gravel: It’s everything; you never thought of, that you always wanted. And so, you know, that to me is everything and that’s the ‘why’ behind everything I do.
Andrea: OK, so usually I find that that when people are driven by such a strong, you know, purpose like that, it’s personal. So is there anything that, you know, any stories that really connect you personally to why you care so much about that?
Kim Gravel: Yeah, because when I was young I just remember, you know, because back then, back in the day, because now I could say I’m middle age, which I can’t believe I’m saying that out loud but it’s the truth. But back in the day when I was a kid, and like my children who were 9 and 11, when I was sitting in my bedroom, we didn’t have video games and iPhones in distractions.
So I would sit for hours on end and line my stuffed animals up on my bed and either sing to them or talk to them or communicate with them because, you know, girlfriend didn’t have a lot of friends at the time. My parents moved a lot. And so for me, I had to entertain myself. I didn’t have a sibling yet. I just remember those days and I knew that I was meant for something at a very young age.
I grew up in the church. I grew up with very strong, encouraging parents. But I would stop and take the time as a young kid and listen to that still small voice that would speak to me, the inner me and say “There’s something out there for you, there’s something out there.” I wasn’t distracted. You know, we didn’t have the distractions back then.
So for me, I can remember a specific time, I was riding in my mom’s brown Malibu car and back then we don’t have to wear seat belts and I would chew on the back seats. I know I had an oral thing, “Don’t talk to me about that right now.” Well, I would sit there and I would daydream and dream. And I would tell my mom about all these dreams and my mom either she wasn’t listening or, you know, she just let me talk either way and I would just say it.
And I remember one time coming home, I think it was from, we called it Richway, I think it’s now Target. But back in the days, it was called Richway, it was a department store. And I was eating a slushy my mom had got me, and I said to myself and I said it loud, I said “Mom, I’m made to sing or talk to people.” And I remember my mom going, “Well that is true, you can run your mouth.” Only my mom could do it and that hit me and it stuck with me now. That has taken on so many different forms, so many different ways. But I truly believe, if you could trace back to when you were young, your purpose will be there.
See, a lot of people are trying to get over their past or they’re trying to…a lot of people have gone through hard times and struggles, but all of that is locked into that purpose. There’s a ‘why’ you went through that and there was a reason behind it. But we get hung up on what happened to us instead of what can happen through us. For me, I clearly remember the moment. I remember that period of my life where I knew and then the real work and frustration and hail began.
Andrea: OK. I was hoping you were going to say that because, oh my goodness, because I really felt…I remember feeling some of those similar things and especially we share a passion for both speaking and singing. I remember, I actually watched the song that you sing, you sang Phantom of the Opera.
Kim Gravel: Oh God, help me.
Andrea: And you’re in the Miss Georgia competition, oh my gosh, it was great.
Kim Gravel: Well, the only reason I would demonstrate, you know, I wanted to have scholarship money and I want to be heard.
Andrea: Yeah.
Kim Gravel: I love your “Voice of Influence.” I wanted my voice to be heard.
Andrea: Yes, yes!
Kim Gravel: You know what I’m saying?
Andrea: Yeah, I do.
Kim Gravel: That’s everybody. That’s everybody on the planet, you know, so for me, that was just a way for my voice to be heard.
Andrea: Did you ever struggle with the fact that, I mean, you have a really strong voice. At least at this point, you’re very confident. You’re not afraid to say it. You know, like you said, you’re a straight shooter. Was that ever something that you held back?
Kim Gravel: Sure.
Andrea: OK, why?
Kim Gravel: As a woman, can you imagine as a southern blonde or at that point I was probably live brunette. God fearing Christian Bible belt big mouth girl, are you freaking kidding me? I would go to church where you’re supposed to be I loved and cared for. And let me tell you something, I’m a strong believer. I still go to church. I love God, everything. But those early years, I was told, you know, be seen, not heard. I was told you just get married and have kids. And I thought, “My Lord, why would God give me this voice? Give me this passion; give me this preaching quality…” I’m saying that in air quotes as I’m talking to you “…and not be able to use it?”
Andrea: Oh I do.
Kim Gravel: I went through all of that. You know what I’m saying?
Andrea: Yes!
Kim Gravel: I went through all of that. I’m still going through that to some degree. There’s sometimes I still have to say, “You know, I’m pretty much not going to do that,” and slide that piece of paper and say, “We’re not going to do that deal. I’m better than that.” But I still go through them. I’m like, “I hope if I slide the paper over and they say no and I’m rejected.” And then, you know, especially as women, and I’m sorry I’m a woman, I’m pro woman. I think women run the world. I think we are the backbone, the neck bone, the tailbone, you know, leg bone, you know, we’d make it happen and I live with three men so I can say that confidently.
But yeah, the doubt, the insecurity, the “I’m not enough” or “I’m just a girl” or “You’re not smart.” Oh God, if I could write down how many times someone has assumed that I was unintelligent based on whatever, fill in the blank. And you know what; let me take this right now. I know somebody as dumb as hell, now I must say dumb as hell. I almost say it when they think I am. When someone meets me and it takes them a month, two months, six months, a year to figure out I’m intelligent then they’re stupid, not me. You know what I’m saying? So that’s what I want to say to people.
A lot of people are having all this expectations, all of this in the box thinking about what they should be and what they shouldn’t be. I see the school system with my children, it’s such a frustrating thing and they’re the ones that don’t have it together. And so for me, yes, the struggle has been long. I still struggle. I laid in bed yesterday. I’ve had a little bit of a cold and watched Charmed on Netflix from season one, I’m up to season three now, just because I had this deal just going so wrong and it’s clearly a lack of communication, and I can’t figure out how to make these people understand.
And so I lay in bed all day wanting to get a chocolate cake, but I’m really working on trying to lose weight. But I just lay in bed and watched Charmed and thought “This is never gonna happen. These people are never gonna get it. This is never gonna happen.” And that still small voice said, “Keep communicating,” because that is the biggest problem we are facing, millennials, us, and everybody is lack of communication and connection.
Andrea: Well, do you think that part of that is fear?
Kim Gravel: Oh, sure! Oh girl, you could go ahead and speak on that. Anything based out of fear, being fear motivated, you’re in trouble. Fear insights are the complete opposite. Now, I will say this, I get excited talking about this, doubt, that’s not necessarily a bad thing. I love this line in the song by YouTube it says, I have just enough low self-esteem to get me where I need to go.
So doubt and a little bit of self-awareness in that way, that’s good. Fear, no. OK, because really fear like…my mother has spiritual…“What if it snows while we’re on the plane.” “We can’t do about it anyway, honey.” You know, God’s got it. If it’s time, it’s time. If it’s not, it’s not. And she’s not even a fearful person, but just that things we can’t control is what we really fear. The self-doubt and the little bit of insecurities that we have about ourselves that we can’t control and that’s not necessarily always a bad thing. Does that make sense?
Andrea: Yeah.
Kim Gravel: Fear is a myth. It’s not real. Bad things we fear never come pass anyway.
Andrea: Right? So much of it is in our own heads and so much of it is a misconception too of what other people are actually thinking.
Kim Gravel: Absolutely, or miscommunication. Again, everything is about communication. Your confidence, like my relationship with God is communication. My relationship with my husband is communication. My relationship with my business partners is communication. I mean bad communication could set a whole lifetime off. So that’s why I think what we do, girl, is so powerful.
Andrea: OK, so part of what I think we’re both doing, but I’m really wanting to hear more about what you’re doing to do this is helping people express themselves.
Kim Gravel: Uh-hmm.
Andrea: So, self-expression and I know that Kim of Queens, I mean a lot of that was self-expression.
Kim Gravel: Sure!
Andrea: Helping pageant girls be able to kind of figure out who they are and what they’re doing with all of the different pieces of the pageant. So tell me more about why self-expression and you helping people with self-expression is so important to you.
Kim Gravel: OK, because what we teach at schools, what we teach at colleges, what we teach in a lot of times these self-help books or these YouTube videos, what we teach has great self-expression, right?
Andrea: Yeah.
Kim Gravel: Express yourself, be you, do you boo? If I’ve heard that one time, I heard it a thousand and I totally agree with that. But then we tell them how to do that based on laws, rules, or regulations. I love it. This little teacher told me this and she said, “You know, this is not about the theory, _____,” because they go to a private Christian school, have its own ideas but he can’t do this, this, this, this, and this.
OK, well that’s an oxymoron. Those two things cannot exist on the same plane, OK? So what we’re doing is we’re saying to people, “Do you boo?” But then we are censoring it, covering it up, denying it saying “You don’t fit here, you’re a weirdo.” “You don’t belong.” And now we have this massive backlash and everybody’s trying to belong to somebody somewhere and you really don’t belong and that is a good thing.
So for me, I will never forget a conversation I had with a very, very powerful agent in New York and I was embarking on the whole QVC thing. And I didn’t want to work with this man because I knew 10 years from now this isn’t going in well because I’m either go kill him or he go kill me. So I remember him saying to me, he said to me and this is where it came to blows, he said to me, “Let me ask you something, Kim, are you able to speak in anything other than southern colloquialisms?” Oh my God. So there he goes. OK, so he took an arrow, took a shotgun and just blew through my heart of everything that makes me who I am, my self-expression, right?
Andrea: Yeah, yeah.
Kim Gravel: So we love you to be cute, funny, and say no, _____ on a fire hydrant; we love you to do all that crap, but you’re not good enough to hang with me because you do that. So that’s what we do and I knew at that point he’s small. He’s never going to get anything other than what he gets. He’s not going to recognize who I am other than “She is a size 14 with a big butt, big hair, and a big accent.” He can’t get beyond that.
And that’s how we’re killing self-expression. We’re not supposed to be alike. We’re not supposed to be anything like anybody else. We shouldn’t even _____ or compare ourselves to anybody else because that kills creativity. So to me, self-expression, that’s everything. That’s your DNA. That’s your fingerprint. That’s the one thing no one can take from you.
Andrea: OK, so how do you look at or how do you approach helping people find their voice?
Kim Gravel: You know, it’s different in different ways. I always say this every time I’m on a show or something. I said there’s nobody that can bring out the best in you better than me. They might can do it as good as me but not better. And that is because when I look at an individual, and this has taken a lot of practice, a lot of prayers; I don’t see their race, their color, their weight, their height, their financial status, what they can give me, or what I can give them, I just look at them as like really…I pray to God, “Let me see people the way you see people,” and when I pray that, be careful what you pray for because he answered it.
And so I see that role potential, role purpose, I see too much good sometimes. Sometimes I have to be like “Run, Forrest, run” when I see some people that don’t, but it’s because I’ve trained myself to do that. So when I look at someone, I don’t speak to their insecurity, to their power. I can see all the bullcrap and say, “God, this person is naturally good at, fill in the blank.” And sometimes it’s just, “Oh my gosh, have you ever thought of…and whatever, fill in the blank.” It’s not about really me; it’s just about being able to notice something and being able to communicate that. That’s it.
Andrea: It’s like opening up doors for people. I liken it to, you know, somebody…it’s almost like people are inside of their own jail cells and there’s no lock and all I’m doing is coming over and open up the doors so they can walk out like, “Hey, did you know that this is open? Look at all the possibilities.”
Kim Gravel: You know, a lot of times, I _____ things like this and your podcast and I need a pick me up. I need a _____. I need a good workout and that helps, but the magic is not in us. It’s in us. We already have it in us.
Andrea: OK, so I know that experiencing it though, like actually taking the steps actually doing the thing is such a huge piece of it. Even in the things that you’re working on now, do you have any examples of…or stories that you want to share of how you help people take those steps?
Kim Gravel: Sure! Yeah, let me get you a personal story because once you take steps, it’s easier to take more steps. People that take chances and step out on faith take more chances and take more chances and step out on faith more and more because they’ve built up their faith muscle, OK?
Andrea: Yeah.
Kim Gravel: So for me now to jump off a cliff and do something crazy and out of the box is a lot easier for me now. It’s not as risky. It’s not as scary because I’ve done it. But I remember the first time I did it, OK. I wanted to ask, I said, “OK, I had this little singing group girls, we’re traveling around church to church.
Andrea: Love it!
Kim Gravel: Community center to community center or _____. We were producing our own CDs, we’re writing our own music, middle-aged women. I had two at home, little infants and I said to myself, I’ll never forget it, I said, “I’m gonna take this to the next level.” OK, let’s talk about stay-at-home mom, you know, sagging boobs, you know, your hind end and everything. So you take about three women like that out there trying to make it in the music world where everything is grabbing your crotch and butt naked.
So here we go and I said, “I’m gonna take this to the next level.” I said “I wanted to have a reality show.” Girl, I know nothing about nothing. I know nothing, OK.
Andrea: Except that you’re brilliant, right?
Kim Gravel: Well…
Andrea: You just knew you got it.
Kim Gravel: I knew I had something to say. I just knew I had something to say. I didn’t know who wanted to listen, but I remember doing a little video in my girlfriend’s basement for this little TV show that ended up being Kim of Queens, by the way. I said, “I’m going to take it to another…” I remember sending it out to all these producers.
Long story short, we got the show, you know, two years later. People don’t know that the _____ takes forever _____ and this producer; I met with this producer in Hollywood. Again, air quotes I’m doing right here. And I remember feeling like I was the dumbest idiot of what the heck have I got myself into, scariest thing. I wanted to quit because I thought they were so smart and they were telling me, “You gotta do this, you gotta do this, and you gotta do this.”
And I will never forget on set one day, I looked at this guy and then someone will tell you something. I don’t know where it came from but I knew it was wrong, I said, “I’m not gonna sit here and fight with these little girls and fight with these moms and fight with you. You can either do the show the way you wanna do it and get somebody else or get the heck out of my building.” Girl, I don’t even know where that came from.
I was scared to death to even say it but I knew if I didn’t take that step up and get this dude straight, my career will never happen. This is like what, 39. I’m not talking like I was 20, almost a 40-year-old woman sitting here letting this dude just tell me what the heck I am and who I am. So that moment, you’ve got to take that first step. So you’ve got in total fear in total, “Oh my gosh, if I piss this guy off, he’ll never hire me again.” But you have to know yourself and know your worth and know that you’re worthy and step out and be who you are whether they like it or not.
When you do that that’s when your when your confidence will rise. It will get easier to take those jumps. It will get easier to invest and bet on yourself, you know. I mean, some people, it’s doing a podcast. Some people, it’s going back to the school. I mean, fill in the blank, whatever that thing is for you, that is holding you back and you know what it is because if you listen to this podcast, you know exactly what I’m talking about. There’s that one thing that you say, “If I don’t do this, it’s over.”
And let me tell you something, you get a lot of chances in this life, take one for the love of God. Take one.
Andrea: I’m listening to the people who are saying though, but what if this, this, this, or this happens, but this, this, and this are on my way?
Kim Gravel:OK, well, you can’t live your life on what ifs. You’re not going to get married, what if you get divorced? You’re not going to have a baby, what if the baby dies during childbirth? What if you’re not going to…you know, you can’t what if your life you, you just can’t. At some point you have to do something or you’re going to be just reading books and make again vision boards the rest of your life. OK, here’s an example. I hear more people saying, I’m making vision boards. Well, my vision board, I haven’t had a chance to make it. I’ve been so busy since January.
Andrea: I love that.
Kim Gravel: OK, quit preparing and start doing because I’ll tell you this, once you take a step and you do like when I told that joke, this _____, either you get on board or don’t. That’s when the show popped. That’s when we got second season, and now this guy’s a good friend. He texts me and says, “Oh my God, I wish I could work with you again, blah, blah.” That’s never going to happen but “Oh my God, we should work for you.” You know, you have to do something and you have to believe in yourself enough to do it or nobody’s going to believe in you. Quit working your vision board, honey, and reading your books. Get up there and check _____, do something.
Andrea: I love it. I love that. Do you think that that part of part of what we do when we…OK, here. I think one of the things that we’re afraid of is, you know, like we’re going to polarize people, like some people won’t like me. So talk to me about that like polarizing people. Surely not everybody is into Kim Gravel, you know like…
Kim Gravel: No!
Andrea: Who is Kim Gravel’s audience and why do why do you speak to them and not everybody else?
Kim Gravel: OK, so look, I know everybody doesn’t like me. I always say this, if you don’t like me, that’s fine. I still love you. It doesn’t matter. It doesn’t matter who likes you. The only person that matter who likes you is you. And this is the thing, I like me. It’s been a long journey and I don’t like the way I look all the time. I don’t like the way what I say all the time. I don’t like the way I act all the time, but when it comes down to a little bit in my heart and soul, I do like me and I hope my children like me. But if they don’t, which they don’t right now because, you know, they’re supposed to when they get older. That’s fine because I still love them.
You got to please you, and that sounds narcissistic but it all goes back to being worthy. Being worthy and you believing that you’re worthy has nothing really to do with you, and I hate talking super spiritual but I know…
Andrea: No, it’s totally fine here.
Kim Gravel: It’s just what I know. I don’t know psychology. This is what I know. I know that I am fearfully and wonderfully made and I’m an individual and I know that there’s nobody else like me. So if I’m here, I know that he loves me, accepts me, likes me, and I’m worthy. And so when you know that you’re worthy and you feel that self-worth coming from something bigger than you, it has nothing to do with people’s opinions or even your own, or even your mom’s and dad’s or even your husband’s or whatever then it’s so much easier to not care. I don’t say not care because I think that’s a lie because I do care what people think, but I don’t stay there. Does that make sense?
Andrea: Well, it could be that too that you’re driven by such a purpose by that purpose. You’re secure in the love. You’re driven by the purpose, and so you’re willing to sacrifice the fact that people might not like you. What do you think?
Kim Gravel: I love that because when you’re passionate about something, nobody can tell you anything. I remember when I started selling on QVC and the tops or the jeans or whatever that I would sell that I was passionate about that would sell out. And the tops I was not crazy about, I couldn’t sit there and lie and be unauthentic. I could, I could go, “Oh, this is a great top.” And I would say that but everybody knew. They didn’t know why they did know. So they didn’t believe me, they didn’t say, “Oh my gosh, she’s lying.” You can just feel that, you know, what I’m saying?
Andrea: I do.
Kim Gravel: So when I’m passionate about something, you can’t tell me nothing, I’m a bulldog. I’m a bulldozer. And I’ve seen that in so many people, like in politics, people get so freaking passionate about politics and I do not know why it is this crooked industry on the planet. But they get so passionate about it but that’s why they’re willing to fight to the end for it. You got to figure out what you’re passionate about and do it. If you’re not, it’ll be stale. It won’t be authentic. It won’t be true. Does that make sense?
Andrea: Yeah, I mean it brings us right back to where we began with your why, why you are here and what you’re going to do about it. That’s essentially it.
Kim Gravel: That’s everything. And I just didn’t know if your only reason here is to really figure that people think is supposed to get married and have children, although that’s fantastic and I love my children and that’s my biggest job and responsibility right now. And they’re always going to be my children but that’s just for a season, OK? I asked people, “What do you call to do? “I meant to be a wife.” No, no, no, no, nope. “I meant to be a mom.”
Andrea: It’s our role.
Kim Gravel: No, that’s not it, sorry. And they get mad at me. Some people say “Kim, you’re just crazy.” I’m like “You’re not here to be a mom. That’s not your job. That’s not why you’re put here. You get to do that as a woman, what a blessing and what an absolute huge responsibility and it’s your most important responsibility while they’re in those formative years but your kids are going to be gone in a short amount of time. What you’re gonna do with the rest of your life and the best thing you can do for your children is to have purpose so that they can recognize.” They didn’t even know they were doing it. They didn’t even know they were doing it back in the day. I think it’s even harder now to find your purpose than it was back when you just had to survive, you know.
Andrea: Sure!
Kim Gravel: And when our parents were coming up, they just work, you know. Now, there’s so much information and I’d say information, not knowledge. There’s so much coming that people are so confused, depressed, and it’s just because they’re sitting there watching on YouTube, Instagram, and Facebook. Other people leaving out their purposes instead of them getting about theirs, so bottom line is I should’ve been a preacher because that’s all I’ve done so far.
Andrea: Oh, no, no, no. I love it. No, this is so fun. I mean you are a preacher. I mean in a sense, you know?
Kim Gravel: Yeah, yeah. I miss that. I told you I miss my calling. I was told when I was a southern Baptist girl, you can’t preach, you’d be quiet. I should’ve never done that, biggest mistake.
Andrea: Yeah. I think for me, hearing that and feeling that sense of there’s no opportunity here in the church for your voice. I don’t know if anybody wants to hear that from me but yeah, that definitely motivated me to move towards business so…
Kim Gravel: Yeah and let me tell you something. Let me tell you all these women out here listening to the entrepreneurs that don’t think they had business to send them, you do. You sound certainly do and there’s plenty of room out there for all of us and we’re supposed to have a voice in business. The marketplace is dying for women. I cannot tell you how many business meetings I’ve set and they’re like, “Well, we want to sell to Susie, The Soccer Mom.”
And I got one now and I can’t really get into it. One is like “We wanna to sell to Liz and Elizabeth. “We wanna to sell to the mom and the daughter.” We’re always the people that they want to get our money. So you better get about getting your business that sell to each other because money in this world gives you a lot of seats at the table and that’s what women need. Entrepreneurship and money and business gets you tons of seats at the table.
Andrea: It changes the game.
Kim Gravel: It changes the game, right. And that’s what we should be teaching our young girls in college is how to…because we the workers, “I’m sorry, we don’t want to get it done.” So I’d love to see women take that part of who they are and put it in more of an entrepreneurial vein and get more seats at the table that way.
Andrea: Wow! This has been a really great, fun conversation, Kim, and inspiring. Is there any one thing that you would like to leave with the listener, like some sort of a call to action or thought that you want to leave with them?
Kim Gravel: Yeah, I do. My motto is if no one’s going to encourage you, encourage yourself. Take responsibility for your own feelings, thoughts, actions, and spiritual wellbeing, your soul. Because I will say this, the drought is over. The days of being less bad and depressed and fatigued and in debt and all of that is over. It’s time for us to stand up and it’s time for you to stand up and take your rightful place in this thing called life, because we need you and I say that all the time, “I need you.” You know what I’m saying?
There’s no one person who has it all together. We all have something together that we can all collectively share together. So we need you!
Andrea: Alright, Kim, where should people look for Kim Gravel?
Kim Gravel: Oh, just go to kimgravel.com, you’ll find something there.
Andrea: You’ll find a lot there.
Kim Gravel: You’ll find something there for you and if not, you’ve been blessed. I’m telling you what’s you’re doing, girl, with this podcast, do it. Do it, I love it! This is the future. And keep communicating because we need it.
Andrea: Yeah, thank you! Well, thank you for your voice of influence in the world.
Kim Gravel: Well, my pleasure, and I love you guys and thanks for having me, girl.
Andrea: Yeah!
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