Alicia Couri is a dynamic empowerment speaker, author, and personal branding expert who shares her message of how overcoming low self-esteem and lack of self-confidence has created massive opportunities that influence, transform, and impact lives.
Alicia’s books focus on self-development and self-care and, while simple, are incredibly profound. Her mission is to influence, educate, inspire, and entertain with audacious confidence and to help her clients do the same with a strong personal brand.
In this episode, Alicia discusses why the core of her message is focused around confidence, the difference it makes for the world if people are confident, how to gain confidence, why we shouldn’t look for external validation to boost our confidence, the three P’s of personal branding, and so much more!
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Mentioned in this episode:
- Alicia Couri’s Website
- Download Your Free Copy of Alicia Couri’s Book | Your Signature Style: Unlocking the Confidence, Style, and Influence of the Savvy CEO
- Voice of Influence | Episode 53: How Your Attention and Energy Can Change the Game with Neen James
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Transcript
Hey, hey! It’s Andrea and welcome to the Voice of Influence podcast.
Today, I have with me, Alicia Couri, a dynamic empowerment speaker, author, and personal branding expert who shares her message of how overcoming low self-esteem and lack of self-confidence has creative massive opportunities that influence, transform, and impact lives.
I personally benefited from Alicia’s abilities with personal branding especially in the area of hair and makeup recently at an event that I spoke at. So I’m excited to share her with you today. Her books focused on self-development and self-care and they’re really fun reads and they’re both very simple but profound. Her mission is to influence, educate, inspire, and entertain with audacious confidence and she helps her clients do so with a strong personal brand.
Alicia how wonderful is it to have you here today on the Voice of Influence podcast.
Alicia Couri: Thank you so much! I really appreciate how you introduced me. That is so wonderful and I appreciated the opportunity to work with you recently. Thank you so much!
Andrea: Yes. It was so fun. You were a delight. You were very encouraging and I liked how I looked so that’s so great too.
Alicia Couri: That turned out great, yes.
Andrea: It’s nice to know that somebody professional has done the hair and makeup thing before you go up onstage.
Alicia Couri: It makes a world of difference. It certainly does.
[Off-topic conversation]
Andrea: So Alicia what is the core of your message? Tell us about what drives you in your message?
Alicia Couri: In the introduction, you talked about me overcoming low self-esteem and low self-worth. So the core of my message is really focused around confidence because everything that we do starts with being confident and it starts with having that confidence within yourself. So for me that is such a staple and such a vital part of life so that is really what drives me.
Andrea: What is it about that then? I want to hear about your story then because it sounds like you have a pretty good story about why this is personal for you?
Alicia Couri: Absolutely! You know, I was born in Trinidad and I grew up in Australia.
Andrea: You grew up in Australia but you don’t have n accent now?
Alicia Couri: OK, so that’s part of my story.
Andrea: OK, good. I want to hear it.
Alicia Couri: That’s also part of my story, because I was one of three black children in an entire school of 700 to 800 kids and so…
Andrea: Wow that’s a lot.
Alicia Couri: Yes, it was a really big school because it went from a kindergarten all the way through 12th grade.
Andrea: And such a small percentage.
Alicia Couri: And it was just one was a native Aborigines and other was my sister. So it was three of us in the whole school that I’ve ever seen that were dark, at least as dark as we were. So I got a lot of stares. I got a lot of questions and as a 5 year old getting questions about your skin color and where you from and your accent and why do you talk like this and all of that, it was intimidating because I didn’t have the answers. I didn’t know why my skin was different color than theirs. I couldn’t answer that question intelligently, and so it has caused me as a rambunctious, really outspoken, outgoing little girl to become shy and kind of introverted.
It completely changed my personality. It changed how I was. I wanted to blend in. I didn’t want to standout. I wanted to be just like everybody else but the minute I look at myself, I knew I was like everybody else that I was around. So later on in life, I realized that what impact that had on me, because when you’re in it you don’t realize what’s happening, but as I tried to step out and do things, I would realize that I would shy away and I would want to be in the background and I wouldn’t step up and I wouldn’t speak up and I couldn’t figure out why wouldn’t do these things.
So later on when we moved back to Trinidad, I looked like everybody else so I can fit in but the minute I open my mouth to speak, heads would turn again and people start asking questions and they start wanting to know “Can you say these words? Can you say that word?” So I started feeling self-conscious about even speaking.
Andrea: Because of the Australian accent at that point?
Alicia Couri: Because of the Australian accent. Yeah, a heavy thick Australian accent from this little girl. So my way of fixing that was “Let me just speak in a way that is clear and enunciate and so that people cannot identify me by an accent anymore.” So that’s kind of why I speak the way I speak because I just didn’t want people to ask me where I was from and now I got it all the time because nobody could picture where I’m from. I always hear say “Hey, where you from. I detect something but I don’t know what it is.”
Andrea: Yes, interesting.
Alicia Couri: So yeah that’s kind of my story and so that’s why I so strongly believe in confidence because it erodes who you are if you don’t have it. It erodes your worth, your value, your self-esteem, your ability to really go out and shine at the highest level that you can possibly achieve. So that’s what I want for people to be able to realize.
Andrea: OK, so what difference does it make then in the world if people are confident? Why does this matter?
Alicia Couri: Well, it matters, especially if you’re in business, it matters how you value yourself. It matters how you show up. It matters how you perform. For instance, we love to watch world events and Dancing with the Stars and all these really great reality shows that are based in competition, say like Dancing with the Stars for instance.
When you put someone out of their elements and so you take someone who has never done ballroom dancing before and now you’re training them to ballroom dance and you see the process that they go through and how the lack of confidence at the beginning really holds them back from giving it their all to when they reached probably the semi finals or the finals and then you see that change in not just the way they danced but the attitude that they have when they danced because now they’ve got it. Now, they’re confident in their steps that they’re taking and they’re no longer holding back.
So when you live in a world that you’re not holding back, that you’re actually giving it your all because now you’re sure of what you’re doing, you’re confident in what you do, it makes not just a difference in your performance but it makes a difference in your clients and customers in how they receive it. They are able to celebrate it with you when you do a great job. They’re able to be the beneficiaries of that great job, so I think it’s really important.
Andrea: And it totally levels up what you can offer it seems like.
Alicia Couri: Absolutely, absolutely!
Andrea: Yeah. OK, so how does someone become confident? I’ve asked a lot of people on this podcast you know, “Have you always been confident, because they come across so confident. And they’re like “Oh no,” and they kind of go back and then, “No way, I’ve always been confident.” But I think that a lot of people are sitting there looking at people who looked confident and saying, “Gosh, I wish I was like them but I don’t really know how to get from here to there.” So what do you tell people about that?
Alicia Couri: So that is a really great question because so many times, people think there’s a formula to getting confident but we really have to start looking back at why you think you’re not confident or why you believe you can’t do this because sometimes it’s a universal belief that some people are born confident and others aren’t. And so if you have bought into that universal belief then you’re always going to think that you can never be confident enough.
So think back to really what that seed that was planted that made you feel like either you couldn’t do something or you weren’t confident enough or you didn’t have enough skills, education, or whatever it is. So for me when I looked back at my childhood and I recognized that it was that time in my life when I felt that I wanted to disappear then I can kind of shift back and I can say “Well, you know, that was my reality as a child, that’s not my reality now.” So I don’t have to bring that baggage with me everywhere I go. I am a choice now that I’m aware that that is where I came from, I am now a choice.
I think we even spoke about this when I was doing your hair and makeup that we can choose in this moment now how we are going to be. So that kind of can get you out this idea that you think that you’re not confident enough or you think that you can’t do a good job is recognizing where it came from, being able to now make a different decision because now you’re a choice because you’re aware of where it came from and then just choosing it. The other thing is recognizing where your skills, your talents, your gifts, and your abilities lie.
Andrea: So big!
Alicia Couri: Yeah, your talents, your abilities, your gifts, and your skills.
Andrea: I like that tags.
Alicia Couri: Yeah, your tags.
Andrea: That’s good.
Alicia Couri: If you know where your tags are, if you know that I am really good at this that is where you’ll shine and that is where you’ll be confident. When I started doing makeup, it was a passion of mine. It was something I love doing but I didn’t have all the skills yet, but because I love and I enjoy doing it and I was encouraged by the people around me that I was doing a good job, I got more training and more training until I felt that “You know what, I believe that in any situation, I can make this work.”
So I don’t need to know what everybody looks like before they sit in my chair because I understand now, you know face shape. There’s a certain understanding of the technical aspect of it but I also know that I have a natural gift for it. So I rely on my natural gift and I rely on the skill set that I’ve developed. And so I’m confident when someone sits on my chair that I can do a good job for them.
Andrea: I really like that you’re pulling up both the internal belief and where it came from as well as the need to develop the skills and to sort of level up where you’re already gifted because I think it’s definitely not enough to just say that I’m more confident. Confidence has to be grounded in something…
Alicia Couri: …in something, exactly.
Andrea: Yeah, yeah.
Alicia Couri: Absolutely, absolutely. Too many times, especially young women looked externally at everything. You know, beauty was a big, big thing for me because I spent a long time not believing in my own beauty, again came from my childhood and not seeing a representation of what I look like as beauty in the world in the 70’s. There weren’t really people on TV or in magazines that were portrayed with my skin color, my nose, or my lips. It was more, blonde, blue eyed, light skinned.
My concept of beauty was cute because of my surroundings and I had to figure out what beauty really meant to me. So when so many young girls are looking externally for validation and they’re looking externally for things to identify with, it erodes their confidence because they no longer have confidence in themselves but they’re trying to be like the image that they see out there. And it’s really important to develop your own concept of beauty and confidence and all those things for yourself and then like you said, make it tangible and then match the inside of what you’re now believing for yourself and then make it tangible.
If you’re going to use, for instance makeup, don’t make up yourself to hide yourself or try to alter your features to look like something else, but use makeup to enhance. Say, “You know what, I love my lips and I am going to put on this bright red lipstick because it makes my lips just look juicy and beautiful.” So you know, instead of underlying your lips so that they look thin and more acceptable. So trying to build and develop confidence in yourself comes from the internal but also you have to add the external to it but don’t add the external as a way to mask, hide, or alter who you are.
Andrea: Hmmm. OK, so I love that you just said that we need to find that within instead of basing it on other people and getting approval and basing our idea of beauty or whatever _____ that we’re trying to set for ourselves basing that on somebody else or something else outside of ourselves. But how do we do that, really? I think it’s hard to get those images or those expectations out of your head and kind of comeback inside to yourself to find those answers.
So, Alicia, how did that work for you? Let’s use beauty as an example because you’ve used it. So how did you decide what was beautiful for you and what made you beautiful when you didn’t have representation in media and you didn’t see people like yourself out there _____ this beautiful? How did you find that for yourself and how do you recommend that other people look within to find some of those things?
Alicia Couri: It took me a long time! It certainly did because I did not like looking in the mirror. I did not like my picture taken and if you look at my Facebook page or my Instagram page, you would never believe that in a million years because there are selfies everywhere, but honestly, I was hiding myself. I would hide myself and people would say, “Oh you so pretty.” “You’re so beautiful.” I couldn’t receive it. I couldn’t accept it. I would just politely say, “Oh thank you,” but inside I was like “What are they looking at?”
But it took me a while to kind of make the shift and so what shifted for me was to start seeing myself differently. I had to actually start looking differently at myself in the mirror. I had to take pictures of myself and stop criticizing myself and putting myself down and looking for the beauty. When I would look in the mirror, instead of saying, you know, pimples or oh my gosh, my nose is this way, you know, just finding everything that was wrong, I looked in the mirror and I thought, “You know what, you’re not too shabby today.” You know, I have _____ a little bit of a compliment, “Not too shabby today.”
And then I started taking pictures of myself which is something I really didn’t do. When I started taking more and more pictures, I started to see myself differently because I looked at myself objectively as if it wasn’t me I was looking at. I thought, “If I didn’t know this person would I think she was pretty?” And I would look at each picture saying, “Yes, she’s got beautiful eyes and she’s got red lips. Her face shape is very good.” You know, just start picking little things and looking at different features and saying, “Yeah, she’s kind of pretty.”
Andrea: Yeah and just are ____, I mean, you’re gorgeous. So yeah, I can’t even imagine not realizing that, but it’s so interesting that you took the time and energy and effort to do that because I think a lot of us don’t put the extra time and energy into that kind of reflection and to that kind of awareness. You know awareness of taking the picture and then reflecting on it and saying, “OK, what do I see here?”
I think we can do the same thing with other areas of our lives that we’re trying to grow in and or become more confident in but yeah, we don’t. It takes so much effort or decision or permission or something to actually do that. So what was inside of you or what’s outside of you, I don’t know what kind of got you to that point where you said “You know what, this is worth the time, this is worth the effort to take my pictures and start thinking about this and overcome this issue from myself?”
Alicia Couri: I was just tired of not feeling great about myself because there are so many people always telling you something about you that you’re _____ and all the stuff and you don’t see it then what are you missing? So I thought and really wondering, why am I always shying away from the spotlight? When people say, “Oh my gosh you make a great speaker.” “Oh my gosh you will do great camera work.” And I kept denying that from myself and I finally said, “Why do I keep denying my potential just because I don’t see it?” But obviously, other people were seeing it.
So let me stop denying my potential. Let me stop denying and saying, “Oh no, I’m trying to be polite or trying to be humble.” You know, people think that’s humility when it’s false humility. It’s really pride. It’s not really humility, “Oh no, not me.” So I really started looking at that and saying “Well, maybe I can speak in front of people and what will it take for me to stand in front of an audience and deliver a message without falling apart.”
And I thought, “You know, if I stand in front of an audience and I was nervous, what’s wrong with that?” And I couldn’t figure out what was wrong with that. Nothing was wrong with that you’re standing in front of people. OK, so my voice shakes, so if my voice shakes what’s wrong with that? Will people make fun of me? Maybe, but will I get my message across? Yes! OK, so just start trying, just start doing and the more I did, the more stepped out and I did, the more confident I became and the more proficient I became and the less judgmental I became of myself and the less critical of myself.
So I didn’t do it right. I didn’t do it perfectly and I think that is another thing that does not go well with confidence is perfection, because if you think that you have to do everything perfect, and if you think that you cannot mess up or make a mistake then you will never get to that confident place in yourself because you’re always going to be afraid you’re going to mess up.
So I didn’t do it perfectly. You know, I have my radio show and sometimes, I look back at the radio show and I think “What was I thinking?” “Oh my gosh.” But people comments and they say how much fun they had listening to the show or how much they gained and as a matter of fact my last guest, she was talking about the opportunity for it’s about everyone else instead of about you. So when you start thinking what I have to share can be a value to someone else then you think less of yourself and all the things that you think are wrong with you because now you are in service to someone else.
Andrea: Yes. Yes, love that! One of my recent guests, Neen James, said, it’s hard to be nervous when you’re standing in service. That’s the way she puts it.
Alicia Couri: Right.
Andrea: And I remember distinctly a point in my life when I was getting up to speak and I thought, “I got to love these people more than I fear them, more than I fear their judgment, more than I fear messing up in front of them. I got to love them more than that because if I do, I’ll be OK.”
Alicia Couri: Right and all the ums and the ahs and you know it happens and that shows we figure real. You know, there are some speaking programs that are trying to cut all those things out of you, kind of try to slap it out of you and I don’t necessarily feel that it needs to be taken completely out of you. Yes, it can be curtailed a little bit so that your message isn’t modeled in the umhs and the umhs and the umhs.
So there is a balance that some of those things can be removed a little bit but you don’t want to be robotic. You don’t want to be too stiff when you’re delivering something to someone, when you’re in service to someone because you want them to be able to feel you. You want them to able to experience what you’re sharing with them in that moment and if you slip off here and there then it’s fine, at least that’s my philosophy.
Andrea: I totally agree with you because I think that people get so obsessed with that sort of thing that they do, they lose their voice. They lose who they really are in that like you’re talking about. People can’t really feel me if I’m there trying to do a perfect job because I’m not truly connecting with them. I’m not connected to my message because I’m so worried about it.
Alicia Couri: Oh yeah that can really mess with your confidence too because if you don’t have it down exactly correct, perfectly then you don’t feel as powerful in that moment.
Andrea: Oh yeah.
Alicia Couri: But if you can let it go and just say whatever it is it is and I have a strong message inside of me and I’m just going to let it out, not that rehearsal isn’t important. Rehearsal is a very important part of it but don’t get so locked into your script that you’re not making that connection.
Andrea: Yeah and even your story or your message in general, even if you’re having a conversation with somebody if you’re not connected to it in that moment. If you’re trying to make sure that it doesn’t get lost, I think that’s something that is definitely even frustrating for me at times. If I’m not totally clear in what I’m trying to say, I get flustered.
Alicia Couri: A little tongue tied.
Andrea: Yeah and then I used to just give up and that doesn’t do anything for the person that you’re talking to and it definitely doesn’t serve your message at all. So having a sense of what it is ahead of time is helpful.
Alicia, you also talked about personal branding and I remember when you’re doing my hair and makeup, I asked you, “what is your perspective?” What is your points of view on personal branding and would you share that with us now because that is something that we talked about a lot here and I think it definitely ties into awareness of who we are so that we can build that confidence. So what is your point of view on personal branding?
Alicia Couri: I talk about the three P’s to personal branding; Posture, which is about building a solid core and the core, of the C in core is confidence so that is your foundation to your posture, so posture. And in building your core, we have confidence how you’re oriented which is what you believe and what you value. We talk about your results and your relevance to your industry and what your education and your experiences have been. So that is core, you know, anytime I talk to anybody about core, those are the things that I’m referring to.
And then Presentation that’s the second P, which is so important. When it comes to presentation, most people when they hear about branding, they think about presentation. They think about your logo and your colors and your image and those things. What is your website look like? What is your business card look like? So that is part of presentation but an important part of presentation as well is your performance, how do you actually provide your service to people and your story, your copy, all those things that represent you in your presentation.
So we want to make sure that everything in that part of your brand and the presentation of your brand is consistent. You have a consistent message and you have a consistent look about you, not a cut and paste. It’s not like your wearing the same thing all the time. You know, every time people see, like “Yeah, I’m in my brand,” but everything has the same feel. Everything has the same flow. If you have a particular font that you use for your brand, you’re always using that font so that people get used to seeing that in your brand, people get used to seeing your brand colors in your presentation.
Most of the time when I speak, people know I’m going to show up in red. When I’m on camera, they know I’m going to show up in red. So people just come to know me in red and in red lipstick, so they have just kind of embrace that part of my brand.
Andrea: Which is awesome because it’s like the opposite of holding back.
Alicia Couri: Exactly!
Andrea: It’s like you’re saying, “Now, I’m standing out and I’m not afraid to stand out, here I am!” I love that!
Alicia Couri: It’s so funny, I did a media interview sometime ago, not too long ago and one of the notes that they sent me, the producers, “Don’t wear bright red.” And I’m like “She don’t know who she’s talking to.” Of course, I’m gonna wear red. Are you kidding me?” So you just have to fix the lights and the tone and everything when I get there.
You know, some people says, better to ask _____ information. But I did actually send them a picture of my dress ahead of time because I want to be respectful and they said, “No that’s fine. It will work.” Even though they said, I guess people wear this really crazy bright red that mess with the camera.
But anyway, when I have instructions like that, I try to be respectful of it and I send them ahead of time and if they really say no then I might tone down the shade or wear something different. It’s not a big deal to me, but most of the time, yeah I’m in red.
So then the last P is Positioning and I think sometimes we don’t really pay attention to how we’re positioned in our brand. Are we speaking to the right people? Are we in front of our target audience? Are we positioning ourselves as an authority? Do we have these pieces in our marketing like media? I need to get some of this myself some articles. I need to do more writing and get some more articles in magazines. And how you’re positioning yourself to be considered the expert in what you do, to be considered a leader in your industry, to be considered a thought leader. Are you really positioning yourself correctly? Another thing that people don’t really think about in positioning is who is coaching and mentoring you. What sort of groups do you belong to? Are you positioned correctly in those things?
So those are my three P’s for branding and that’s how I look at it. I know there are so many people who do branding out there. Everybody has their own unique point of view on how you should brand yourself. So again, position yourself correctly, find the right person that you believe can develop your brand for your and make it stand out.
Andrea: So how does, Positioning, Posture, and Presentation; how did these things relate to your core message of confidence then?
Alice Couri: Well, branding relates to my core message of confidence as a whole because finding your unique quality, finding what’s unique about you, what stands out about you and then being able to highlight that and having the opportunity to really to really allow that to shine is it can only come when you’re confident within yourself because then you’ll keep holding something back, like red for instance.
I did not even think red was my color because for two years, my graphic artist and I were trying to figure out my logo. We’re trying to figure out my colors and everything that I came up with, she kept telling me, “Nope, I don’t see that. Nope that’s not right.” I wasn’t feeling it in and she wasn’t feeling it.
And then I did a photo shoot that was really just impromptu. I really wasn’t expecting to do it so I looked in my closet. I pulled out a top that was red. I pulled out a dress that was gold that I had never worn and I said, “OK, I’m going to do this photo shoot and I’m bringing these three things with me, a black shirt, a red top, and this gold dress.
When I finished the photo shoot, I got the pictures, that red and that gold were just like, you know like when the light shines down from heaven and when I looked at the _____. So it was just really by chance that I found those colors for my brand. Sometimes, it will happen that way. And because I had ran from red so much in my life, the only reason I picked that red top was because of the cuts. I’m a stylist so I help people with their wardrobe. It’s part of their brand. I do a lot of image styling for people’s hair and makeup and wardrobe.
So the cuts of that top was really why I grabbed it because it was a very a flattering cut, not for the color. So it’s very interesting that the color was the thing that actually stood out more in those photos and that’s what made people comment more.
Andrea: Alright, Alicia, so what of all from today’s talk, what do you really hope that the listener would take with them this week? What nugget do you want them to remember?
Alicia Couri: Oh that is so great! What I really want people to remember is that any point in time, they can choose to be more confident. They can choose who they are in that moment. You can make a decision to, let’s say climb Mount Everest for instance, that would not be me but let’s say you make a decision, “By next year this time, I want to climb Mount Everest.” You can choose to not train and then last minute try to get yourself up to _____ or you can choose to do a little bit everyday to get to that goal.
But if you choose to do something every day to get to that goal, there’s a second decision that you have to make and you have to choose who you are being in that moment. Are you going to be the person that procrastinates or you’re going to be the person that gets up and continues to march towards your goal? Are you going to show up ready to work and give your best and your all, or are you going to phone it in?
You have the ability to make those decisions, to choose that action and then choose who you’re going to be in that moment. When I was cast as a lead in a movie that’s filming down here, I thought to myself, I could choose to read the part and acted out the way I think it should be acted out or I can choose to actually put myself in this character and live this character and give a performance that is not comfortable for me, Alicia, but will fit and suit this character.
So I had to make that decision because I had never acted before and I’m doing this movie. I’m casting this movie and I’m like “Well, how do I do this?” I had to make the decision who am I going to be. Am I going to be the person that they say, “Oh yeah, nice job,” and then cast somebody else or am I really going to turn into an actor and become this person?
And so that’s kind of the job that you have when you’re building your confidence, “Am I just going to phone it in and act the part or am really going to become who I meant to be? Am going to become this person that I visualize that is awesome, great, wonderful, and everybody loves and it’s totally authentic to you because it’s coming from within from inside of you from within and it’s not coming from anything external. So you choose who’s going to bubble up from me inside of you and show up on the outside.
Andrea: Hmm love it! OK, Alicia, I know that you have a free download for people, so can you tell us a about that?
Alicia Couri: Absolutely! It’s my first book. Again, I didn’t know that I was going to write a book. It’s the first book that I wrote and it’s called Your Signature Style: Unlocking the Confidence, Style and Influence of the Savvy CEO, and also talked a little bit about my journey that I mentioned earlier from Australia and some of those struggles.
One of the most impactful chapters in that book is chapter 2 when we talked about overcoming fears and how to release step out and not consider the fear but do it, do what you need to do and do it in a very great way. So I love chapter 2, so hopefully, you will enjoy chapter 2 as well.
Andrea: How can we find that? We’ll definitely link to it in a show notes, is that sufficient or do you want to give out another link?
Alicia Couri: You can link it in the show notes and they can also go to my website, it’s www.aliciacouri.com and there will be a link to the book. I know it’s available for a limited time since it is on Amazon. I do make it available anytime I do a radio show, television show, or podcast. I make it available for the listeners and the viewers.
So if you can go to my website, the download will be there but it will only be there for a limited time.
Andrea: Gotcha! OK and we’ll have it in the show notes at least for that limited time.
Alright, thank you so much, Alicia. It was so great to _____ with you today and hear how you came into your own voice of influence. We have so much in common and I’m just really grateful and I want to thank you for your voice of influence in the world.
Alicia Couri: Thank you! There are two things I want to say about what you just said, I know we’re _____, but one is that it’s so important when start sharing your voice and your story how much you realize how many people can relate to what you’re going through and so anytime you have an opportunity to share your journey with someone and how you’ve overcome and some of the tools and tips that you have, it is a value because they’re also going through some of that and they can benefit from what you have to share.
I’m also launching a podcast soon, so look out for that.
Andrea: Yes that’s right and once that’s all ready to go and everything, we’ll definitely put that in the show notes as well.
Alicia Couri: Perfect!
Andrea: Awesome and yes good luck with that. That’s exciting. Alright, thank you so much, Alicia, and we’ll see you soon.
Alicia Couri: I appreciate it. Thank you, Andrea!